More from Murph

By Hugh Nguyen

Some good points here with kids getting converted to Volleyball. But it also poses an interesting question; What is it we want from the state programme? Is it to convert more kids to our sport? or is it to put on the best competition for those already in it? Volleyball is in a tough spot competing for kids with other more established sports. It doesn’t help when kids start Footy and Netball a lot younger (in primary schools) than they do Volleyball (typically high school).

One of the great things that the AVF did was take SA’s Mini-volleyball format nationally to create the Spikezone programme in primary schools and get the kids into the sport earlier. I think programmes like that are more effective in winning athletes than each state having development sides to do this. Overwhelmingly the kids that pour into our club are Spikezone kids in primary school wishing to play on. But I do agree that TID kids get that richer experience with our sport if they get a chance to play state.

Murph makes me think about the challenge of coaching kids Gen Y kids. I’m a borderline X-Y, so i have a foot in a couple of camps. Gen Y’s want things NOW. There’s no patience or waiting for your time. You used to wait until it was “your time” to try out, but now you don’t have to. Kids can now play junior league before high school, they can play state a couple of years before the cap, they can play reserves/league while still in high school. They also get injured younger – I find the idea of kids with knee and shoulder problems at the age of 15 disturbing. And they get sick of it all younger too. Is it too much too young? Are we burning them out?

Feedback from your players is very much a funny thing. There are players I’ve helped improve a lot who don’t appreciate a thing, and there are some excellent players (and their parents) who had great feedback for me even though I had bugger-all to do with their success. In business I learned a funny truism relating to all this; People don’t usually remember what you did for them, but instead they remember how you made them feel.

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Murph

Huy,

Most certainly there was some over simplification on my part there…

But I have spoken to a few of the athletes I mentioned last time, and they all agree, without hesitation, that they are better volleyballers due to the experience of playing in Sydney. Rory Welsh is one such player, who excelled like you would not believe in Sydney, he then went onto win an MVP award in melbourne. He told me that his time in Sydney helped every aspect of his game, as well as giving him the confidence and experience in tournament play. Jade arrived at the trials not looking like the player you mention…But boy did he grow throughout the training sessions and in Sydney he stepped up exceptionally.

Another one to think about is a young lad called Jordan Maslen, who last during trainings was otherwise focussed, he was always wanting to go out and play footy…After the trip to Sydney, I spoke to him and his Father, and they both agree, he’s a volleyballer now. He has the bug, he wants to play 21s one day. Another lad in my team last year David had a pretty good tournament, he was a TID athlete who was just kind of playing because he was at SASI…After the State program he told me how he loved the sport, as soon as the tournament finished his Dad was on the phone to Brighton, seeing if he could enroll in the school. He regrets not starting playing earlier (perhaps as a 14 year old in a State team….)

There are many little stories like this…Sure they players might have achieved the same thing if they were not a part of a development squad, but you cannot argue with the testimony of athletes telling you that you have either helped them become a better player and set them up for future tournaments, or given them the passion to love the sport.

Murph

3 Responses to “More from Murph”

  1. Murph Says:

    Thanks for the discussing Huy.

    That is also something I am finding hard to deal with, with the athletes wanting things now! I was quite vocal late last year about making the standard of junior league better, and with that, older. The example I give is this, Josh Lowrie should have won MVP of junior league last year, instead of playing R2 against a mix of young players and older guys who might not be presenting the best environment for youth development.

    I feel there is only one club who does it well…South Adelaide…They put their best juniors (who, admittedly, aren’t as good as the juniors from the other clubs) in the top grade of Juniors League, and they play hard. Next step is Reserves, then League.

    On Junior League Grand Final night, I was shocked, absolutely shocked, to see the crowd who was there to support South; League players, ressies guys, coaches from other teams etc etc were all there. Mt Lofty had a few Mums and Dads, and couple of friends, there was no one from the Lofty Mens league team, no one from the Womens ranks… So what happened next? Well South Adelaide had the loudest crowd I have ever seen in State League Grand Final (sorry Min, you’ll have your work cut out to beat them when Henley make a GF)…So much support, you HAVE to agree that in a tough 5 set match, it made a difference to them.

    But I have totally digressed…

    Gen Y volleyballers do indeed want results NOW, and when they don’t get them (and I am generalising here) they quit, and move to other sports. Quite a few athletes have left the sport when they leave school because the AIS wasn’t at the end of the pathway after all, and they seem to have no real love for the sport, just a love for what they can achieve. It really sickens me to see some of the injuries that we see in young people…A stress fracture in a 15 year old? Surely that’s just poor management of the amount an adolescent can do.

    I totally agree that Spikezone can be an effective train for success in the sport. The pathway in this State seems to be either;

    Spikezone -> School -> u16 state -> High School -> State -> State League

    SASI TID -> u17 state -> u17 state -> State -> AIS -> Overseas

    This is a big simplification but I think it sums up the direction players seem to go. Spikezone kids want to play state league, where the guys like Sammy Mac (who oversaw Brighton Spikezone last year) play. While the TID guys are aiming straight for AIS. The point of all this? Well, you don’t actually need to play junior league…But I truly think our State would be better for it if we enhanced the level of junior league to make the pathway

    TID/Spikezone -> Junior League -> Reserves -> State League
    -> State u16 -> u17 -> u19 -> u21

    I really am just randomly typing whatever thought comes into my head about volleyball…So I hope you can follow it and it can initiate some more discussion.

    Murph

  2. Murph Says:

    PS: I know Lowrie played League as well, but I was pointing out that he and the other younger guys at Lofty were playing R2 to develop, when perhaps Fri night Junior League would be a better option.

    (Maybe we need to bite the bullet and make R2 age capped, say 75% have to be under 21, so they can play against people their age, but then also against older, (potentially) smarter/more experienced players.)

  3. tony Says:

    Playing junior league as a better option than playing with men…. i highly doubt that!!! Lowrie, Sascha, Welshy are quality players and will all see considerable league time this year. When Joshy & Jack were given the chance at national mens level at the Good Neighbour tournament last year they both stepped up and starred, because they had been playing against men (AVL, League, Reserves) for the previous 2 seasons… is there any point in them going out and hurting kids in junior league???

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